I am both black and gay, and over the past few days I've seen and participated in the very heated discussion regarding Gays, Blacks, homophobia, and Prop 8.
On one side you have those who have resorted to calling black people ungrateful, niggers, and traitors.
On another side you have those who have said that any criticism of the black community is racism.
Yet another side of people have said that everyone else voted for Proposition 8, so it's not fair to focus on just black people.
And then you have the slice that I belong to and will speak to in this diary.
This is a long diary, and there have been many, but I hope you take the time to read it and not simply skip over this very important discussion.
In short, understanding the state of the black community vis a vis the black church is the first step to understanding how to deal with the problem.
Until progressives here at Daily Kos and everywhere else get past their squeamishness with talking about that particular thorn, nothing will ever change.